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	<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 15:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Auto Loan</title>
		<link>http://fangamer.com/blog/2007/12/02/calling-all-developers/#comment-140</link>
		<dc:creator>Auto Loan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 14:29:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My boyfriend who is a Orchardist showed me your notes about All Developers! at Fangamer ! We hunted for more knowledge that gave us more knowledge , Thanks</description>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://fangamer.com/blog/2007/12/02/calling-all-developers/#comment-74</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Dec 2007 22:44:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you guys decide to go with RoR let me know. 

I've been working with it for almost 2 years now. Here are three web apps that I coded from the ground up.
1. http://www.webmixup.com
-- Waste time on the internet. Brand new. Not even officially launched yet. 30 hours.
2. http://www.anythingbutipod.com/compare/
-- Just launched late last month. Users can search, view and compare MP3 players. 150 hours.
3. http://oncurrent.com
-- My first RoR app. I coded it in less than 3 weeks. I forfeited spring break my senior year to learn Rails. This project won best in class and for my senior design course and won us the Burton D. Morgan Entrepreneurial Competition (http://www.purdue.edu/discoverypark/bdmcompetition/)

I can't contributed massive amounts of time, because of other obligations, but I would love to help. I've been wanting to create a RoR message board system for a long time now.

As far as my work load goes, I could pick up a specific task like programming a specific controller, designing the database and models, or Rubifying the markup.

If you need a reference, talk to Reid Young.


Eric</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you guys decide to go with RoR let me know. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been working with it for almost 2 years now. Here are three web apps that I coded from the ground up.<br />
1. <a href="http://www.webmixup.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.webmixup.com</a><br />
&#8211; Waste time on the internet. Brand new. Not even officially launched yet. 30 hours.<br />
2. <a href="http://www.anythingbutipod.com/compare/" rel="nofollow">http://www.anythingbutipod.com/compare/</a><br />
&#8211; Just launched late last month. Users can search, view and compare MP3 players. 150 hours.<br />
3. <a href="http://oncurrent.com" rel="nofollow">http://oncurrent.com</a><br />
&#8211; My first RoR app. I coded it in less than 3 weeks. I forfeited spring break my senior year to learn Rails. This project won best in class and for my senior design course and won us the Burton D. Morgan Entrepreneurial Competition (http://www.purdue.edu/discoverypark/bdmcompetition/)</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t contributed massive amounts of time, because of other obligations, but I would love to help. I&#8217;ve been wanting to create a RoR message board system for a long time now.</p>
<p>As far as my work load goes, I could pick up a specific task like programming a specific controller, designing the database and models, or Rubifying the markup.</p>
<p>If you need a reference, talk to Reid Young.</p>
<p>Eric</p>
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		<title>By: Curse you, X-Play! at Fangamer</title>
		<link>http://fangamer.com/blog/2007/12/02/calling-all-developers/#comment-68</link>
		<dc:creator>Curse you, X-Play! at Fangamer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2007 23:50:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: MasterStarman (StarmanJr on Starmen.net)</title>
		<link>http://fangamer.com/blog/2007/12/02/calling-all-developers/#comment-66</link>
		<dc:creator>MasterStarman (StarmanJr on Starmen.net)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Dec 2007 01:58:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to be really good at PHP and HTML (and of course, CSS). It's been 2 years since I've done any major project. I do not have much experience with MySQL though except for PHPMyAdmin based editing. I'm okay with Photoshop (I have a copy that could be considered historical since it's sooo old) but I'm more suited too coding. Oh, I am fairly proficient in Java.

One more thing, is this just a recode (cleaning and reorganizing) or is this a rewrite (new material and cleaning)?

-MS (This CakePHP looks interesting, I must look into it.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to be really good at PHP and HTML (and of course, CSS). It&#8217;s been 2 years since I&#8217;ve done any major project. I do not have much experience with MySQL though except for PHPMyAdmin based editing. I&#8217;m okay with Photoshop (I have a copy that could be considered historical since it&#8217;s sooo old) but I&#8217;m more suited too coding. Oh, I am fairly proficient in Java.</p>
<p>One more thing, is this just a recode (cleaning and reorganizing) or is this a rewrite (new material and cleaning)?</p>
<p>-MS (This CakePHP looks interesting, I must look into it.)</p>
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		<title>By: LordManiMani</title>
		<link>http://fangamer.com/blog/2007/12/02/calling-all-developers/#comment-65</link>
		<dc:creator>LordManiMani</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 00:57:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ooh, ooh, I'm (almost) the best ever at php+mysql (employment=student web design team)! Pick me! Pick me!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ooh, ooh, I&#8217;m (almost) the best ever at php+mysql (employment=student web design team)! Pick me! Pick me!</p>
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		<title>By: starman150</title>
		<link>http://fangamer.com/blog/2007/12/02/calling-all-developers/#comment-64</link>
		<dc:creator>starman150</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 23:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am currently programming in c# just the basics that is.  I could help but I would need some code.  I would love to though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am currently programming in c# just the basics that is.  I could help but I would need some code.  I would love to though.</p>
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		<title>By: Bryan Redeagle</title>
		<link>http://fangamer.com/blog/2007/12/02/calling-all-developers/#comment-63</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryan Redeagle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 22:41:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mmmm.... Mashers and MySQL...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mmmm&#8230;. Mashers and MySQL&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Reid Young</title>
		<link>http://fangamer.com/blog/2007/12/02/calling-all-developers/#comment-62</link>
		<dc:creator>Reid Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 22:28:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, we sorely need a rewrite, especially because the code that we're going to be writing will need to operate *any* gaming site, not just Starmen.Net. It's gonna have to be super-flexible; kinda like how Wordpress can run any kind of blog, Fangamer's code is going to need to be able to run any kind of fan-based gaming site.

None of us had ever even heard of the concept of MVC until probably 2005, and since most of the site's code is from circa 2003-2004 and was built by a team of about 9 people, it's sloppier than a KFC bowl. All the corn is in the gravy, and there's mashed potatoes all over our mysql statements. &lt;em&gt;Terrifying!&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, we sorely need a rewrite, especially because the code that we&#8217;re going to be writing will need to operate *any* gaming site, not just Starmen.Net. It&#8217;s gonna have to be super-flexible; kinda like how Wordpress can run any kind of blog, Fangamer&#8217;s code is going to need to be able to run any kind of fan-based gaming site.</p>
<p>None of us had ever even heard of the concept of MVC until probably 2005, and since most of the site&#8217;s code is from circa 2003-2004 and was built by a team of about 9 people, it&#8217;s sloppier than a KFC bowl. All the corn is in the gravy, and there&#8217;s mashed potatoes all over our mysql statements. <em>Terrifying!</em></p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Alyea</title>
		<link>http://fangamer.com/blog/2007/12/02/calling-all-developers/#comment-61</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Alyea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 21:51:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard: We need a ground-up fresh rewrite anyway. The 'already debugged code' is bad. I mean Plan Nine from Outer Space bad. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard: We need a ground-up fresh rewrite anyway. The &#8216;already debugged code&#8217; is bad. I mean Plan Nine from Outer Space bad. ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Richard@Home</title>
		<link>http://fangamer.com/blog/2007/12/02/calling-all-developers/#comment-60</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard@Home</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Dec 2007 15:56:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are looking at a total re-write to get it running in Cake. I'm not saying it wont be better in cake, I'm saying you will be throwing away a lot of already debugged code and will have to re-think how everything works.

Sounds like you need an analyst not a programmer. The programmer will come after when the analyst has done his job.

Cake is a fantastic tool for the right job. Don't jump into cake until you understand what the problem is you are trying to fix is though.

You can build a working MVC framework in 3 classes in PHP without the (large) learning curve with Cake. Analyse first, before you hire a coder ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are looking at a total re-write to get it running in Cake. I&#8217;m not saying it wont be better in cake, I&#8217;m saying you will be throwing away a lot of already debugged code and will have to re-think how everything works.</p>
<p>Sounds like you need an analyst not a programmer. The programmer will come after when the analyst has done his job.</p>
<p>Cake is a fantastic tool for the right job. Don&#8217;t jump into cake until you understand what the problem is you are trying to fix is though.</p>
<p>You can build a working MVC framework in 3 classes in PHP without the (large) learning curve with Cake. Analyse first, before you hire a coder ;-)</p>
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